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Seesmic vs. TweetDeck – choosing Twitter desktop clients, revisited

October 6, 2009 8 comments

A year ago I wrote a blog post comparing Twhirl to TweetDeck. So far, it was a very successful blog post with lots of visits and direct traffic from search engines. It could be due to the timing, or maybe comparison posts are very search engine friendly, or that it was just useful, helping people to decide which twitter desktop client works for them.

Since a year is a long time on the web I decide to revisit my findings and to check what has changed during this period. Based on this Mashable blog post from early February 2009 TweetDeck is by all mean the winner. A similar post from Techcrunch supports these findings too. The most recent TwitStat report from October 5th, 2009, shows TweetDeck with 12.82% of users and twhirl with 0.07% of the users. The next serious contender (and one of the selected top 5 based on a recent survey done by lifehacker) from Seesmic (twhirl was bought by seesmic in April 2008) is the new Seesmic client with 3.8% market share.

Up until recently I was one of the 0.07% that were still using Twhirl. I do also use TweetDeck. I used Twhirl at work because of its tiny condensed screen. Twhirl was really good at utilizing window real-estate and it allowed me to use twitter more discreetly in the office. TweetDeck on the other hand let you see more of twitter and other life stream social networks in a single glance when it is maximized. I used it more in the evenings, at home.

I recently replaced twhirl with the new Seesmic client. So now it is time to compare TweetDeck vs. Seesmic Desktop. In this post I will mainly describe the differences, feature-wise, between the TweetDeck and Seesmic applications. I will also cover what has changed since my last examination. You can assume the rest to be the same.

Features that are in TweetDeck and not in Seesmic:

  • Trending topics and Tag Cloud – via TwitScoop, TweetDeck shows what is going on right now on the web. This is a killer feature and having this view locally on the desktop ensure that you won’t miss a beat.  This feature was already there when I first reviewed TweetDeck, yet it is still a big differentiator.
  • TwitScoop
  • Integration with 12 seconds – not new and not a deal breaker for me
  • Unique timelines views – there are many twitter time-line types  views like: all friend (home), Mentions(@replies), Direct messages (Private), Favorites, Facebook, and Search results. Both applications shows all these view types. TweetDeck offers few more unique time-line views:
    • * StockTwits view for people sharing trading information. It is not a bad idea to add more niche community timeline views. Hint: look at the #litchat hashtag.
    • * TweetDeck recommend which is a group of people on twitter that TweetDeck thinks highly of. This could be a useful service for people who just joined twitter and can learn what to do and what not on twitter.
    • * Groups – in this great feature TweetDeck provides a very efficient way to construct new timelines following groups of people. I have my “experts” groups for all sort of subjects. Metaphorically, a group provides you with a new lens looking into the twitter update stream. A group is a filter. Harnessing good group members ensure great stream of information. It is a great way to avoid spam.
    • *MySpace – I don’t have MySpace account but I guess that this is very helpful to have just single desktop client that could brings friends feeds from any desired social network. I noticed that I do more with Facebook just because I have it locally via my twitter desktop client.
  • Mark all as Seen, Clear seen tweets and Show what is popular in this column – all great and useful features that are helping to manage the time-line. I don’t understand yet why it is not available on the TweetDeck recommend column ??.
  • TweetDeck multiple accounts. This, for me, was the most significant reason for sticking with twhirl. Now, actually, I think that TweetDeck is doing better job handling multiple accounts than Seesmic. Switching from account to account in the Compose Update frame takes only one click or two. In Seesmic it requires opening a dropdown and then another click or two.To be fair, it was easier to find how to add new accounts on Seesmic than on TweetDeck. But once an additional account was added in TweetDeck it is easier to know what are you doing for which account. For every new time-line added you’ll see an option to select the associated account. I liked that.
  • Window management:TweetDeck minimize more horizontally – I think that it is more important than vertically.
  • Translate – From an initial examination it looks like it really works and I could understand some of the tweets that I see in foreign language (Hebrew was on reverse – is this my computer?). I did not test it enough though.
  • Text Shrinking – Both serviced offer this option. This feature takes a tweet and replace some of the words with abbreviated version or numbers. I tested only couple of tweets comparing the two and I found the results to be very similar.
  • Reply to all – this is a cool feature that can save you some time communicating with your clique. In a single click TweetDeck copies all the referenced twitter user names from the selected tweet to the message edit box. Seesmic has this feature too. I mentioned it here because it was added to both since my previous review.
  • Configuration:
      • Show preview information for short urls. This is useful in a couple of ways. It is nice to see where a link is taking us before actually going there. It is also a good way to validate that the link that I just posted is actually working.
      • Show # of followers in tweets – if you care about size!

Features that are in Seesmic and not in TweetDeck

  • Navigation – here I think that Seesmic did a great innovative job. The left page serves as a hypertext-ed index, linking to each one of the columns. Since there could be so many columns added, each for any time-line, it is great having the left pane for easy and quick navigation to the desired column. It is easier/quicker to click than to scroll to the right place. On the other hand Seesmic did not make it intuitive to find the General configuration page – it requires clicking the plus sign next to the Accounts label. Some of these setting are not Account specific (at least not at the time I was writing this blog post).
  • Seesmic
  • Multiple accounts – I miss the single window per account. It is not always clear for which account the main five timelines will be added when I clicked on them (Home, Replies, Private, Sent, Favorites).
  • FriendFeed client – gone, I don’t miss this one
  • Services – Seesmic supports a list of services yet beside I don’t use any of the other so I can’t tell much about this feature. It was easier to set the account on TweetDeck, they did a good work pointing me to where my API key was.
  • Spellchecker (English only) – as you can learn from reading this blog post, I was not born in an English speaking language country, so for me this is a life saver.
  • Friends/followers view – I need this view back! I used it to learn about my new followers. It use to be available in twhirl. Dear Seesmic, what happen to this view? In this view I could see the list of all my friends and followers, together with their profile details.
  • Color coded notifications – gone, I missed those too.
  • Window management– Seesmic allow multiple window mode: single column mode (good when you work from the office), One fix view and many detached column, or all column detached. Also Seesmic minimize more vertically. I prefer it to be thinner. I expected that after shrinking the right pane I would be able to minimize it more horizontally but it didn’t. One more thing, could it be possible to add another window mode? How about single window for account:) ? Hint: just launch twhirl.
  • Archive button vs. Sent time-line view – I don’t know if there is a difference.  Anyway it is convenient to have this right at the home view.
  • Lists – It seems like an incomplete feature. There is no way to add more than one person to the list. Was this the intent? I did like the way it was organize though, as a tree.

Performance – both applications perform well retrieving information and being responsive to user action. TweetDeck crashed once on my laptop.

Each of this application is packed with features and I’m sure that I missed some from this review. I hope that I did cover the notable differentiators.

What’s next?

What else could be added to these desktop clients? They are already more than twitter client. If the objective is to bring the real-time web down to the desktop I can see few additional real-time web services out there.

BackType Alerts – BackType crawl looking for comments on lots of blog posts. It is possible to create an alert searching for a word or phrase in blog comments. This is another listening tool that can lead us to where the action is.

LazyFeed – Real-time stream of new content feed from web-sites, blogs and twitter, filtered by tag (subject). I love this new service and i use it a lot. This is taken from LazyFeed web-site:

Never miss out.
Save all kinds of topics and don’t worry about missing out on anything. The most recently updated topics will rise to the top, keeping you always updated.

Conclusion: both applications are doing great job helping us to constantly be connected and to find out: what is going on now, what’s hot, and what’s next. It is getting harder and harder to find a key differentiating feature that can help us to deice which way to go. It is a matter of preferences and also a matter of what is that you are doing on the web. I personally plan to give Seesmic a chance. I think that the Seesmic team is doing a great job organizing the different  time-lines and hopefully soon I will see back some the features that I liked so much on Twhirl.

What are your thoughts? Do you see a killer feature that can help Seesmic to acquire more market share? Are there any other real-time services that you want to see streamed to your desktop?

Being Chris Brogan

October 10, 2008 3 comments

Inspired by Being John Malkovich movie 

Context: The objective of this fictional short story is not to share my wannabe ambitions (guilty) but to emphasize closeness and influence. In my opinion as we adopt social media tools for personal and work objectives we can get closer as if we share a single mind powered by many brains. Communication between people is a miracle. An effective communication between individuals is a phenomenon. Today, communication on the web happens more frequently than ever before.

Some bloggers influence so many of us that it is possible to recognize their tone of voice and content from other corners of the web. There is nothing wrong about it since these voices are on the good side of the fence, leading the way. It could be yet another form of closeness – identifying with.


chris brogan Being Chris Brogan – the story

Blogmon, the application that I built for monitoring Technorati ranks progress over time, was acting all week long. The numbers where all over the place. The tracing shows lots of errors coming from Technorati web service. I was getting a little agitated and finally when I started seeing weird rank numbers I decided to pay the web site a visit. I decided to look at the Top 100 blogs page first. As I was scrolling down just above the 8th blog from the top (Official Google Blog) and below the 7th place (Ars Technica) there was an additional narrow but obvious blank line. The distance between the two blogs seems off. Then I felt my hand suddenly moving the mouse as if I have no control over it, and as the cursor was hovering over this blank space I noticed that a yellow small font text become visible. The mouse cursor was now away so the text become invisible again. This time I moved the mouse intentionally and kept the cursor on the yellow text. To my astonishment the text in yellow and italic font said: 7.5. “Chris Brogan life-stream portal”. With a shaking right finger I clicked the link. Suddenly the bluetooth light at the bottom right end corner of my laptop flashed with purple light. The Wireless Network Connection icon at the task bar started blinking and Technorati page turned pitch black. I was sure I was attacked by an extremely powerful and distractive virus. After few seconds sitting frozen on my chair with what that looked like a turned off computer I touched (hesitantly) the laptop mouse touchpad.

The computer slowly turned on but the feel was as if I’m controlling another computer through remote access. It is more accurate to say that I was not really in control at that time, someone else was moving the mouse and clicking on all sort of desktop objects and I was only the observer. That got me even more paranoid thinking about worms and other goodies from the world wide web – why did I clicked the obviously suspicious link?? Just as I was about to go to the Start button (I run XP on my laptop) to shutdown the computer I noticed  that it was running Mac OS. More than that I noticed that I was starring at Chris Brogan blog while someone was answering multiple comments using the @mrX and @msY notation. I did not know what to do so I just sat there and watched the hectic activity, after few minutes I could only reach one conclusion. I’m watching thee one at work. That’s when I decide to un-mute my laptop speakers. A soft voice speaking almost without taking a breath started coming through the speakers. “25 ways to help the world using social media”, “50 ways to find your destiny using your blog”, “how to show your appreciation to the community”. Now, I was really freaked out!! I’m not just watching him I’m inside his brain!!!.

But before I had the time to digest all of this, a new window popped up and I could recognized Twhirl the Twitter Desktop client. The mouse clicked first the @ button looking for recent replies (there were 6 new ones) then the envelop button (there where 300 direct messages – poor guy). I could now hear the answers before they were typed although the typing followed in a speed that I did not even know possible. I or Chris or both started answering to some of the Twitter replies from @cspenn, @jeffpulver, and @jowyang. I haven’t touched my mouse now for more than 12 minutes but it felt like my brain was carried for a ride as if it was co-pilot on a combat jet plan.

Twhirl through Twitter sent us following several links recommended by friends, fans and followers. We left a couple of comments here and there (backtype helps to refresh my memory).  We shouted out other’s Tweets to share the sharable. Then after 20 minutes I got a “network failure” message. The OS changed back to Windows and the browser was loading one of those splog that copies other people work using a bot, planted with lots of AdSense ads all around –  a real beauty. It was then 2am and my brain was shut. I closed the computer and went to bed.

Tomorrow I will try and see if I can join the cognitive flow and shout out some of my favorite blog posts on Twitter… I heard that when Chris does it, it could do miracle to the web-site traffic:)

Twhirl and Trending topics – bringing both lifestreaming and web-now to my desktop

August 18, 2008 2 comments

The reason that I’m using Twhirl and not Twitter web page is similar to the reason why people are using install desktop applications for instant messaging, we need it right here and now, working asynchronously. I don’t want to keep on looking for my Twitter home page or keep pressing F-5.

What that is great about Twitter (it almost feel corny to write another post about it, don’t you think?) is that conversation sparks quickly and spread wide and far. See these two examples from Twitscoop: #thewaywewere and surname

Twhirl is an Adobe Air application; a lightweight desktop client using Twitter API for getting and sending Twitter status updates, replies and direct messages. I know that there are many other similar applications out there but so far Twhirl seems to do a good job for me. Twhirl was acquired by Seesmic another interesting lifestreaming service few months ago. A great move by Loic Lemeur, Seesmic CEO.

Here are three suggestions for getting additional information on to my desktop via Twhirl:

  1. Twitter search Trending topics – this will help keeping me in the loop. Lately, I go to this page almost every day some times even more than once for my web-now treat. If you want to stay current on the day’s agenda all you got to do is to take a quick peek at this list. In some cases you’ll need to drill down to the conversation itself for better understanding of the context, but it takes reading only few updates to get it. One option is to mashup Twitter + TwitScoop. This combination brings to your desktop not just the Trending topics but also the volume and duration of the conversation around them. Just think about how a small change like this can get more people and quicker riding new waves of conversations.
  2. The number of followers – sounds trivial but it is something that I check occasionally and still have to go to my Twitter(kerendg) home page for getting this information. Twhirl Friends/Followers page is a good place to put it.
  3. Please make the @ and envelop buttons in different colors when I have an answer or direct message (red or green would work fine). I can mark them as read (for you to turn it back off).

To sum up this short post : Twhirl brings immediacy to microblogging. I barely install new software on my laptop these days (my OS loves me for that). Twhirl is an exception for two reasons:

  • The name AIR (fantastic choice of a word by Adobe) implies something light and transparent (vs. windows application/thick client).
  • I need it as close to real-time as possible.

So, bottom line is that I count on it to deliver more information supporting my lifestreaming and web right now experience using Twitter.

Few tipping points

July 22, 2008 2 comments
  • Delver should add Mybloglog to their “Locate your Profile” section – it will help them building a wider social graph by drawing from a reach network. It may help them finally find and associate my blog with my profile. If not, at least let me add/claim it by myself.
  • Muxtape is cool. Its simplicity is like Twitter, attractive. And the same as Twitter it needs something like Summize (now Twitter Search) for finding cool and matching mp3 mixtapes. I’m very curious to see where this service is going.
  • Xoost and Stumpedia, two social search engines that are powered by human, needs some way showing who has good searching skills in specific area. It will be great to be able to ask for help in a search task from someone that already trawl the web, looking for information in certain domain of knowledge. It will be nice too, to be able to say thank you for a great find.
  • Twhirl will save me the trip to Twitter’s web page looking for my followers count if it adds this value somewhere in the Followers tab. I cherish any new follower to  my Twitter’s Blogmon account and this is the only reason that I visit the Twitter web page today.
  • Techcrunh need to hire someone to process comments in full time:). There are 685 comments and counting to this latest post: We Want A Dead Simple Web Tablet For $200. Help Us Build It. It is amazing to see that when you try to change something there is a strong reaction for both better and worse.

FriendFeed exposes the need for FeedFriend

July 8, 2008 1 comment

FriendFeed  is an application for sharing much of your online activity and for folowing others and their feeds. You can add up to 41 services as of today collecting feeds from each to your feed stream. The value of this is still in question but it is not the subject of this post.

Now, one can assume that if you share something in one place and many of your followers can see it, this should be enough to market your blog, but apparently it is not. One can assume that this could be a great time saver for a blogger marketing his recent blog post by cutting down the leg work going around and posting the blog post link in multiple places (some of the 41 options).

The reality shows the opposite. I still see some of this service’s heavy users going around adding the links everywhere including the same marketing shpiel. How I see this – ironically using FriendFeed. Because I follow them and run Twhirl on my desktop I keep seeing the same light-weight pop-up windows with the notification about those users’ activity and only the source is differnt.

I assume that the reason for that “busy working” activity is the fact that many of the target audience is not yet on FriendFeed and these bloggers can’t rely on the message to go around using FriendFeed service exclusively .

So, I see an option to change the direction of the feed as well – i.e FeedFriend. Having a publishing service that can add the blog post link with a message simultaneously to multiple services (41 is a good number) such as Digg,, StumbleUpon, Twitter, Jaiku, reddit and more.

It will be helpful too if FriendFeed or Twhirl will filter duplicate notifications so I will not see the same blogger market the same post per each Social: Network, Bookmarking or Status service.

Your thoughts….

More on short URLs and are we going to see a new search engine developed by Short URL Redirection Services?

June 13, 2008 11 comments


I’m still intrigue by this subject and can’t stop coming up with more questions and thoughts even after I wrote in my previous post

I took my blog URL and looked at the results from few URL shortening services.

Origin URL:

Hare are the result: – not so useful when you get a longer URL than the original!! – most popular – this one is interesting – does it gives you some control over the hash key? – use by Twhirl – the shortest available today

As you can see the length of the domain name is a key for a short URL. Most services uses around 1-5 characters (A_Z and 0-9) for hashing the long URLs (that should be enough for a while).

Google could use their recently acquired, supper short domain name for shortening URLs:

They are using it for redirecting to the Chinese localized version of their search page. I can only guess that it makes more money than tiny links service.

There is also the shortest domain that I know about: but it does not beat  – how did they get this domain registered?

If you are looking for information about short domain name look at this very interesting post.

Here is a list of Free Short URL Redirection Services.

Another point: if I’m right then the hyphen (-) is also a valid character in URL names. I’m not sure but I think that the URL cannot start or end with the dash. What is the reason that these services don’t use this extra characters (36 is better than 35)? Is it too complicated because of the start end constraints? Does not worth it? I’m just curious.

Final thoughts: do you think that whatever inside each of these services database is more valuable than what that a crawler can come up with? Think about it:

  • These URLs are picked by humans (lots of them in Twitter and Plurk).
  • They can keep statistics for how many times each URL was requested.
  • They can build a search engine using these links without the need for building a sophisticated crawler for discovering new URLs.
  • They can see what is interlinked inside this tiny linksphere

Am I making a big deal out of a tiny subject:)?

10 questions about Tiny URLs

Here are some questions about the URL shortening services and methods that I like to share with you. I hope that these are beyond the “how it work?” typical question. If you still want to understand how it works, I found this blog post useful.

You can also find information and to play with URL shortening on the web site of one of the current leading services:

1. Is there a Google web service for URL compression?

Follow-up question: if not, then how come there is no Google service for URL compression?

2. Do any of the existing URL shrinking services make money?

I would charge Twhirl for it.

3. Is there a way to use Tiny URL for advertising?

Follow-up question:  maybe not so tiny but can a service come up with an Ad URL?

For example: I know that implementing such service is way, way, way more complicated than the current use of hash function, yet it is more meaningful than

4. How does search engines deal with tiny URL?

Finding links within Twitter stream for computing page rank and counting blog post’s reactions (“Tiny Link Love”)

5. Do they consider adding to Twhirl a tooltip showing the actual URL? Or something like the SnapShot tool.

6. How much risk do we take putting all our links in one database/hash table?

We can loose lots of links when using services like Twitter and Plurk (services supporting SMS)

7. How soon will we see a built-in function (button) on our wireless phone/blackberry/laptop/browser for url shortening?

Follow-up question: what would be the image on this button?

8. What are the factors that make one URL shortening service better than the rest? Speed, size, robustness, company financial stability, cost, legal terms and  etc..

9. How and will this profoundly going to change things?

Follow-up question:  will we start buying nice Tiny URL name like (R2-D2). Go, run to find interesting 5 letter words.

10.  Finally, does size matter? Building a huge URL

Follow-up question: Is it funny?

Now, what do you think? Please comment below.


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